Si l'on dit: «Une offrande», «Une offrande brûlée», «Une offrande de repas», «Une offrande pour le péché», «Une offrande de remerciement», «Une offrande de paix» (sera) ce que je mange de vous, il est interdit (de manger de lui). [Toutes ces offrandes sont obligatoires (et une offrande de remerciement, aussi, est comme une offrande obligatoire, car "Quatre doivent rendre grâce, etc.", de sorte que (si nous n'étions pas informés autrement) nous pourrions penser que ce n'est pas appelé "vœu en ce qui concerne ce qui est voué."] R. Yehudah le permet. [Puisqu'il le dit sans un "chaf" ("En tant qu'offrande pour le péché, etc."), c'est comme jurer par la vie du offrande et par la vie de l'holocauste, de sorte que ni vœu ni serment n'obtiennent. La première partie de la Michna nous apprend que le premier tanna diffère avec R. Yehudah même en ce qui concerne "Jérusalem" s'il l'a mentionnée sans une irritation , le tenant pour un vœu. Et la deuxième partie nous apprend que R. Yehudah diffère du premier tanna même en ce qui concerne «l'offrande», «l'holocauste» et «l'offrande de repas, etc.» quand il les mentionne sans une irritation, en les tenant pour ne pas être des vœux.] «L'offrande», «Comme l'offrande», «Une offrande» que je ne mangerai pas de toi—c'est interdit. [Même si tous ces éléments ont déjà été mentionnés, "L'offrande" est nécessaire; car nous pourrions penser qu'il en a l'intention "Par la vie de l'offrande" (c'est-à-dire un serment), Quant à notre apprentissage (2: 2): "" L'offrande que je ne mange pas de vous "— il est permis, "dans ce cas, il dit:" Cette offrande ", qui signifie" Par la vie de l'offrande. "]" Lekorban que je ne mange pas de vous ", R. Meir l'interdit. [Car il est interprété comme "Lekorban yeheh" ("Que ce soit comme une offrande"), raison pour laquelle je ne mangerai pas de vous. La halakha n'est pas conforme à R. Meir.] Si l'on dit à son prochain: "konam ma bouche qui parle avec toi »,« ma main qui fait avec toi »,« mon pied qui marche avec toi », c'est interdit. [Même si les vœux ne« prennent »pas avec quelque chose d'intangible, et que la parole est intangible, quand il dit: «Konam ma bouche qui te parle», il empêche la bouche de parler, et la bouche est tangible. De même, que mes mains soient contraintes de faire, et mes pieds de marcher, et ainsi de suite.]
Bartenura on Mishnah Nedarim
האומר קרבן עולה מנחה חטאת תודה ושלמים – all of hese are obligatory sacrifices, and the thanksgiving-offering also is similar to an obligation, for four require givng thanks, but you might think I would say that this one takes a vow in something that is the legitimate subject of a vow.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Nedarim
Introduction
The first three sections of this mishnah teach that instead of stating “korban” a person can name different types of sacrifices and his vow will still be effective.
The final section of the mishnah teaches that a person can make parts of his body forbidden to other people.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Nedarim
ורבי יהודה מתיר – because they were said without the "כ"/KAF they are compared to someone who took an oath regarding the life of the burnt offering, and thee isn’t here either a vow nor an oath. But the first clause [of the Mishnah] teaches us that the first Tanna/teacher disputes that of Rabbi Yehuda, even regarding Jerusalem if he mentioned it without the "כ"/KAF and stated that it is a vow. But the concluding clause [of the Mishnah] comes to inform us that Rabbi Yehuda disputes that [opinion] of the first Tanna/Teacher, even with a sacrifice of a burnt-offering, etc., when he mentioned them without a "כ" /KAF – for it is not a vow.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Nedarim
If one says “A korban”, “A wholly burnt-offering”, “A meal-offering”, “A sin-offering”, “A thanksgiving-offering”, “A peace-offering, should be that which I eat from you” he is bound [by his vow]. Rabbi Judah permitted [him]. In this section, instead of just stating “korban”, the person vowing names other types of sacrifices. The mishnah teaches that these are equally effective in forming vows. Rabbi Judah holds that since he didn’t say “like a …”, the vow is not valid.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Nedarim
קרבן הקרבו כקרבן שאוכל לך אסור (May what I eat of yours be the Korban” “like the Korban,” [By] a Korban [do I vow] be what I eat with you, he is bound) – even though we we heard all of them already, “the KORBAN” is required for it, for you might I would say that he says, “By the life of the KORBAN.” But surely it is taught in the Mishnah further on in Chapter 2 [Mishnah 2], “Korban” be what I eat with you,” he is not bound, there it is speaking of a KORBAN/sacrifice, which implies the life of the Korban.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Nedarim
[If he says] “The korban”, “like a korban”, “korban”, should be that which I eat from you he is bound [by his vow]. All of these ways of phrasing a vow are also valid.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Nedarim
לקרבן אל אוכל לך רבי מאיר אוסר (for a KORBAN shall be what I eat with you) – that it is made like saying, “it shall be like a sacrifice,” therefore, I will not eat with you. But the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Meir.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Nedarim
If he says, “That which I shall not eat of yours should be a korban”, Rabbi Meir forbids [him]. In this case the person adds an additional negative to his statement. Instead of saying “that which I eat from you should be a korban”, he says “that which I shall not eat…”. Hence we might have interpreted the vow to meant that that which he doesn’t eat should be a korban, but that which he does eat should be permissible. Nevertheless Rabbi Meir rules that it is a valid vow, for the statement could also be interpreted to mean, “Your food is a korban to me, therefore I shall not eat from yours.”
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קונם פי מדבר עמך – but even though that the vows do not take effect on a matter lacking substance, and speech has no substance in it, nevertheless, when he says, “KONAM be my mouth with speaks to you,” he prohibits his mouth from speaking, and his mouth spoke something that has substance. And similarly, “my hands be forbidden from their actions,” and/or “my feet from their walking,” and all similar things to this.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Nedarim
If one says to his fellow, “Konam be my mouth which speaks with you”, “My hands which work for you” [or] “My feet which walk with you,’ he is forbidden. In these cases instead of stating that a certain object shall be prohibited, the person states that a certain part of his body shall not do something for his friend. Now usually one cannot make a prohibitive vow on an action. Prohibitive vows are only effective on things and not on intangibles. However, a person can make a prohibitive vow on a part of his body, since parts of bodies are things. For instance one can say “Konam be my mouth to you”, but not “Konam be my speech to you”; mouths have substance but speech does not.
