[Se] sacode-se um molho de vegetais e [a água] pingando do lado superior [caule] para o fundo [caule], Beit Shammai diz: Isso alcança BeKhi Yutan , mas Beit Hillel diz: Isso não alcança BeKhi Yutan . Beit Hillel disse a Beit Shammai: Mas se alguém balança um talo, nós nos importamos se a água pinga de folha em folha? Beit Shammai respondeu a eles: [Você está falando] de um único talo, mas um feixe [tem] muitos talos. Beit Hillel respondeu-lhes: [Se] alguém traz um saco cheio de frutas [que caiu em um rio] e o coloca na margem do rio, nos preocupamos que talvez [a água] goteje da parte superior para a inferior? Mas se ele trouxer dois [sacos do rio] e colocar um em cima do outro, o fundo alcançará BeKhi Yutan . Mas o rabino Yose diz: O saco inferior permanece puro [isto é, não suscetível à impureza].
Bartenura on Mishnah Makhshirin
הנוער אגודה של ירק – as for example, herbs that rain fell upon them, or that water fell upon them unintentionally, and he shakes it in order that the water leaves.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Makhshirin
If one shook a bundle of vegetables and [water] dropped down from the upper [side] to the lower [side]: Bet Shammai say: this comes under the law of ‘if water be put’. But Bet Hillel say: this does not come under the law of ‘if water be put’. According to Bet Shammai, even if the water only moves from part of the bundle to another part, it still causes the water to make the produce susceptible to impurity. In contrast, Bet Hillel again rules leniently. Since the water has not left the bundle, it does not yet cause produce to be susceptible.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Makhshirin
חוששים אנו- in astonishment. Meaning to say, according to your words, we should be concerned also for this (i.e., that the water drops from leaf to leaf).
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English Explanation of Mishnah Makhshirin
Bet Hillel said to Bet Shammai: if one shakes a stalk, do we fear lest water drops from one leaf on the other leaf? Bet Shammai said to them: a stalk is only one, but a bundle has many stalks. Bet Hillel argues with Bet Shammai from what they perceive to be an analogous case. If one has a stalk of some sort of produce and one shakes it and water drops from one leaf to another, all agree that the water has not yet been separated from its source such that it causes susceptibility to impurity. So too, if one shakes a bunch of produce it does not yet cause susceptibility. Bet Shammai says that the two situations are different, for when it comes to the stalk, it is only one piece of produce. The bundle contains many pieces of produce, and therefore we can perceive of the water as having left its original place and moving to another.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Makhshirin
המעלה שק מלא פירות – that water fell unintentionally and they brought it up and placed it on the bank of the river.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Makhshirin
Bet Hillel said to them: behold, if one lifted a sack full of produce and put it beside the river, do we fear lest water drops from the upper [side] to the lower [side]? Bet Hillel again argues against Bet Shammai. When one brings a sack of produce to the river so that water will soak out of the sack and flow into the river, we do not consider the produce to be susceptible because water flowed from the upper side of the bag to the lower side. So too, in the case of a bunch of produce, even if water flows from one part to the other, it is not susceptible.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Makhshirin
התחתון טהור – that is to say, even the bottom one is pure, and all the more so, the top one.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Makhshirin
But if he lifted two sacks and placed them one upon the other, the lower [sack] comes under the law of ‘if water be put’. Rabbi Yose says: the lower [sack] remains insusceptible to uncleanness. However, Bet Hillel agrees that if the water flows from one sack to the other, that it does cause the lower sack to be susceptible to impurity. Rabbi Yose says that even in this case the water does not cause susceptibility because it has not yet been separated from its totality.
