Talmud sobre Ketubot 2:1

הָאִשָּׁה שֶׁנִּתְאַרְמְלָה אוֹ שֶׁנִּתְגָּרְשָׁה, הִיא אוֹמֶרֶת בְּתוּלָה נְשָׂאתַנִי, וְהוּא אוֹמֵר, לֹא כִי אֶלָּא אַלְמָנָה נְשָׂאתִיךְ, אִם יֵשׁ עֵדִים שֶׁיָּצָאת בְּהִנּוּמָא וְרֹאשָׁהּ פָּרוּעַ, כְּתֻבָּתָהּ מָאתָיִם. רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן בְּרוֹקָא אוֹמֵר, אַף חִלּוּק קְלָיוֹת רְאָיָה:

Una mujer que enviudó o se divorció [y que reclamó su kethubah] —si ella dijo: Se casó conmigo como virgen y dijo: No, me casé contigo como viuda [Esto se refiere a una que se divorció. En el caso de una persona viuda, los herederos dicen: Nuestro padre se casó contigo como viuda, y solo una manah te debe]—Si hay testigos de que ella salió con hinuma [Algunos dicen que es un dosel de mirto que hacen para vírgenes; y otros, un velo colocado sobre los ojos, en el que uno "dormita" (mitnamnemeth)], y su cabello estaba suelto, [colgando de sus hombros, siendo la práctica llevar a las vírgenes de esta manera desde la casa de sus padres hasta el salón de bodas], su kethubah es dos manah. R. Yochanan b. Beroka dice: La distribución del grano seco también es evidencia (de que es virgen). [En la localidad de R. Yochanan b. Beroka era una práctica distribuir granos secos en las bodas de las vírgenes. Y si no hubo testigos de que se siguieron tales costumbres en su matrimonio y su kethubah se perdió, se cree que el marido y ella solo reclama un manah.]

Jerusalem Talmud Bava Metzia

HALAKHAH: “If two people hold on to one stole,” etc. ⁷A parallel but different text is in Ketubot 2:1, Notes 12–15. It was stated: One person said to another, give me the mina⁸The Greek mina of 100 drachmas (denars). Zuz, “half sheqel” is the talmudic name of the denar. which you owe me. He answered, it never happened. He went and brought witnesses that the other owed him 50 zuz. The elder Rebbi Ḥiyya said, the confession of the witnesses is the same as his own confession; he has to swear about the remainder⁹A similar text, formulated as R. Ḥiyya’s statement, is quoted in the Babli, 3a. The oath required here is the biblical “oath imposed by the judges”, Mishnah Ševu‘ot 6:1 based on Ex. 22:8. The rabbinic interpretation of the biblical expression אֲשֶׁר יֹאמַר כִּי הוּא זֶה is “if he [the defendant] agrees that there be a case.” If the defendant in a civil suit, in which there are no witnesses or documents, denies the entire claim, he does not have to swear a biblical oath (he may have to swear a rabbinical oath). But if he agrees to part of the claim, he has to swear a biblical oath to free himself from the remainder. Only if the claim is advanced as tentative, then any admission by the defendant is a gift to the claimant and by rabbinic rule no oath of any kind is due. (Cf. Giṭṭin 5:3, Note 84).. Rebbi Joḥanan said, the confession of the witnesses is not the same as his own confession that he should have to swear¹⁰Since Ex. 22:8 insists on the defendant’s agreeing to part of the claim, witnesses can never force a judicial oath. This opinion is not mentioned in the Babli. In Ketubot(loc. cit. Note 7), R. Joḥanan denies that the oath is biblical; its rules cannot be determined by biblical arguments.. Rebbi La said, Rebbi Ḥiyya the elder’s statement is implied by “if two people hold on to one stole”. Since he holds on to half of it, is it not as if he brought witnesses that one half belongs to him? Could one not say that he swears and collects¹¹The argument is refuted. Since each party claims the entire stole, each one is disputing half of a claim. There is no claimant nor defendant; even R. Ḥiyya must agree that the oath imposed by the Mishnah is not biblical.? Is this a similar case¹²For R. Ḥiyya, the case of the baraita is biblical; R. La’s argument is impossible. (In Ketubot, R. La quotes R. Joḥanan’s statement in the next paragraph.)?

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