Y estos no reciben knass: uno que vive con un prosélito, una mujer cautiva o una esclava que había sido redimida, proselitista y liberada cuando tenían más de tres años y un día de edad. [Porque dado que son aptos para la convivencia, se los considera "abandonados", y se conviven con ellos cuando son gentiles, como lo es la mujer cautiva en su cautiverio.] R. Yehudah dice: Una mujer cautiva que fue redimida permanece " en su santidad "[y no se supone que se haya vivido con ella] incluso [si fue secuestrada] cuando creció. [La halajá no está de acuerdo con R. Yehudah.] Si uno vive con su hija, la hija de su hija, la hija de su hijo, la hija de su esposa, la hija de su hijo y la hija de su hija, no reciben knass, porque él es susceptible de muerte, su muerte (pena) está en manos de beth-din; y todos los que están sujetos a la muerte no pagan dinero, está escrito (Éxodo 21:22): "y no habrá muerte, entonces se impondrá el castigo" [pero si hay muerte, uno de los dos hombres que están luchando Al ser asesinado, el que lo mató no es castigado con el pago de dinero, ya que está sujeto a la pena de muerte judicial por haberlo matado. Y no hace diferencia en una transgresión castigada con pena de muerte judicial si el acto fue intencional o involuntario—él siempre está exento del pago monetario. Pero en una transgresión castigada con kareth o stripes, uno no está exento de pago a menos que haya testigos y advertencias previas y reciba stripes, en cuyo caso no paga.]
Bartenura on Mishnah Ketubot
יתריות על בנות שלש שנים – for since they are appropriate for coition with the legal presumption that they are ownerless, and they had intercourse in their gentile status, and the captive woman while she is in her captivity.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Ketubot
Introduction
This mishnah teaches those cases opposite of those mentioned in yesterday’s mishnah.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Ketubot
הרי היא בקדושתה – and she is not in the legal status of one no longer a virgin even though she had been taken captive while she was an adult, but the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Yehuda.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Ketubot
And in the following cases there is no fine: If a man had intercourse with a female convert, a female captive or a slave-woman, who was redeemed, converted or freed after the age of three years and a day. Rabbi Judah says: a female captive who was redeemed is considered to be in her state of holiness (a even if she is of majority age. In these cases the women are assumed to be non-virgins, and hence do not receive the fine. Rabbi Judah rules that any captive who is redeemed is assumed not to have been raped and is therefore a virgin.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Ketubot
ולא יהיה און ענוש יענש – surely if there will be an accident with one of these two people who are arguing that one of them was killed , the person who killed is not punished monetarily for he is liable death penalty by the Jewish court because they killed this one, there is no difference regarding the sin which makes one liable for death by the Jewish court whether inadvertently or willfully, is always exempt from payment/indemnity, but concerning a transgression where one is liable for extirpation through it, or stripes/flogging, he is not exempt from payment/indemnity until there will be witnesses and warning and he will be flogged and then does not pay.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Ketubot
A man who had intercourse with his daughter, his daughter's daughter, his son's daughter, his wife's daughter, her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter does not pay the fine, because he forfeits his life, for his death is in the hands of the court, and he who forfeits his life pays no monetary fine for it is said, “And yet no other damage ensues he shall be fined” (Exodus 21:2. Having intercourse with these women is a capital crime. Since the man is liable for the death penalty, he does not pay the fine, for there is a principle that one cannot be executed and pay a fine. This is learned exegetically from the words in Exodus 21:22. The case under discussion is when a man strikes a woman causing her to miscarry. The Torah states that if there is no other “damage”, then he must pay the fine. The interpretation is that if the woman herself doesn’t die, then the striker pays a fine for having caused her to miscarry. Had she died, the striker would have been a murderer and would not have paid the fine. Note that this is true even if the damages were caused accidentally. Although one cannot be executed for an accidental murder, the rule of the Mishnah is that anytime a person commits a crime which is punishable by death had it been committed with intention, he is exempt from the fine.
