Talmud for Eduyot 2:5

שְׁלֹשָׁה דְבָרִים אָמְרוּ לִפְנֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, וְלֹא אָמַר בָּהֶם לֹא אִסּוּר וְהֶתֵּר, וּפֵרְשָׁן רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן מַתְיָא. הַמֵּפִיס מֻרְסָא בְּשַׁבָּת, אִם לַעֲשׂוֹת לָהּ פֶּה, חַיָּב, וְאִם לְהוֹצִיא מִמֶּנָּה לֵחָה, פָּטוּר. וְעַל הַצָּד נָחָשׁ בַּשַּׁבָּת, אִם מִתְעַסֵּק שֶׁלֹּא יִשְּׁכֶנּוּ, פָּטוּר, וְאִם לִרְפוּאָה, חַיָּב. וְעַל לְפָסִין אִירוֹנִיּוֹת, שֶׁהֵם טְהוֹרוֹת בְּאֹהֶל הַמֵּת וּטְמֵאוֹת בְּמַשָּׂא הַזָּב. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בֶּן צָדוֹק אוֹמֵר, אַף בְּמַשָּׂא הַזָּב, טְהוֹרוֹת, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁלֹּא נִגְמְרָה מְלַאכְתָּן:

Three questions were asked before R. Yishmael, and he did not rule "forbidden" or "permitted," and R. Yehoshua b. Matiya explicated them [i.e., when, liable; and when, not liable]: puncturing an abscess on the Sabbath — if to make an opening for it, he is liable [for "boneh" ("building")]; and if to remove pus from it, he is not liable. [For it is "a labor that is not needed for its own sake", (the labor being the opening.) And this (abscess) does not require an opening henceforward, so that only a rabbinic issur obtains, which, because of the pain factor was not decreed. He is, therefore, not liable, and it is permitted.]

Jerusalem Talmud Beitzah

There, we have stated⁶⁸Mishnah Idiut2:5, missing the introduction, that R. Ismael did not indicate his position regarding the difference between the anonymous Tanna and R. Eleazar ben R. Ṣadoq.: “About rural pans⁶⁹Pans made of unfired clay with cover attached., that they are pure in a tent with a corpse⁷⁰A clay vessel cannot become impure from the outside. A clay vessel which does not have a cavity is immune to impurity (Mishnah Kelim2:7). Since the unused rural pan is totally closed, it is immune to the impurity of the dead by biblical decree, Num. 19:15. but impure if carried by a person afflicted with gonorrhea⁷¹Any implement moved by a sufferer from gonorrhea is severely impure, Lev. 15:10, even if the sufferer never touches the implement and moves it on a flat piece of wood (or clay) impervious to impurity.. Rebbi Eleazar ben Rebbi Ṣadoq says, even if carried by a person afflicted with gonorrhea they are pure since their production was not finished⁷²He holds that as long as the cover is not separated from the pan the manufacturing process is not finished and therefore the composite is not an implement to which the rules of impurity may apply..” It turns out that the minority opinion here corresponds to the majority opinion there and the minority opinion there corresponds to the majority opinion here⁷³R. Eleazar ben R. Sadoq must agree that separating cover from pot is “hitting with hammer”. Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel must agree that the unopened clay vessel is an implement and subject to impurity by being moved..

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