Талмуд к Кила́им 5:13

Rebbi Zeïra asked: One understands if the lower part is for a fence but the upper part for food, but the lower part for food but the upper part as fence? It grows out of something forbidden and you say so? Rebbi Zeïra follows his own opinion²⁹Kilaim 5:7, Note 76., as Rebbi Zeira said in the name of Rebbi Jonathan: An onion from kilaim in a vineyard which he removed from the soil and planted anew is forbidden even if it increases manifold, since growth of what is forbidden can never justify forbidden produce.

There¹³⁵Mishnah Baba batra 6:8, detailing the standards for a builder of burial caves., we have stated: “He makes a courtyard¹³⁶A flat space outside the cave. in front of the cave six cubits square as a place for the bier.” And here, he says so¹³⁷Why does the contractor only have to build a space of six cubits square for burial in a cave whereas for burial in the ground one reserves eight cubits on either side? It is to be expected that the minimal standards for a commercial contract are less than those for checking for impurity.? There for a bier standing, here for the width of a turning bier. How far¹³⁸This has nothing to do with either commercial contracts or impurity; it defines the persons participating in a funeral and exempt from any other duties while the funeral procession is in progress; Mishnah Berakhot 3:1.? For the carriers of the bier, their replacements, and the replacements of their replacements.

Rebbi Zeïra in the name of Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Abba: Only if he sowed the [contents of the] second [box] before he harvested from the first. If he sowed the [contents of the] second [box] before he harvested from the first then what is cut and what is standing does not all become subject to proof¹²¹For this expression, that they do not prove contradictory statements, cf. Chapter 4, Note 82; Chapter 7, Halakhah 5.. Rebbi Ḥanina Eyntanaya in the name of Rebbi Yannai: An onion of heave that was uprooted and replanted becomes permitted as soon as the new growth is more [than what was planted]. Rebbi Zeïra objected: Did we not state: “If it is a kind whose seeds disappear, all is permitted, if they do not disappear, it is forbidden.” If it is a kind whose seeds disappear, [it is permitted] the moment the new growth is more [than the original amount]. Similarly, if they do not disappear, [it is forbidden] even if the new growth is more! ¹²²The following sentence is from Kilaim Halakhah 5:7, cf. Note 76. Rebbi Zeïra follows his own opinion, as Rebbi Zeira said in the name of Rebbi Jonathan: An onion from kilaim in a vineyard that he removed from the soil and planted anew is forbidden even if it increases manifold, since growth of what is forbidden can never justify forbidden produce.

It was stated⁸³Tosephta Ševiït 2:8.: “If one sowed Lima beans, barley, or fenugreek as vegetables⁸⁴To eat the green stalks., his intention is disregarded; the seeds are obligated but the greenery is free.” Rebbi Jeremiah said, that also is from the words of Rebbi Eliezer⁸⁵We could understand that Lima beans and barley are excluded as vegetables, but fenugreek was stated in the preceding paragraph to be freed only by R. Eliezer. Therefore, the entire statement must be attributed to R. Eliezer. The Babli, Eruvin 28a, accepts the statement as majority opinion..