Талмуд к Эруви ́н 2:8

²⁸From here on there exists a Genizah text edited by L. Ginzberg (G, pp. 304–305). Rebbi Nathan said, The House of Shammai agrees with the House of Hillel that one brings wood from the field from what was collected⁷Logs arranged in orderly heaps are arranged by humans for use by humans and therefore prepared for use on a holiday. Logs strewn around in disorderly fashion on meadows or in forests are not arranged by humans and therefore may not be collected on the holiday., and from a corral what was collected. Where did they disagree? About what is strewn about in a corral, where the House of Shammai forbid but the House of Hillel permit.” Rebbi Yose in the name of Rav Jeremiah, Rebbi Ḥaninah brings it in the name of Rav: practice follows the person who restricts, [including]²⁹Corrector’s addition, confirmed by G. what was strewn about in a corral³⁰One follows the Mishnah. The Babli 31a disagrees in the name of Rebbi Jeremiah.. ³¹This parallels Eruvin Chapter 1, Notes 193–194, Chapter 2 Note 93. The opinion of Rebbi Jehudah seems inverted, as we have stated there³²Mishnah Eruvin2:6., “[Rebbi Jehudah says]²⁹Corrector’s addition, confirmed by G., even if it only contains a cistern, or an irrigation ditch, or a cave, one carries in it..” And here he says so? Rebbi Mana said, Rebbi Jehudah treated it as a house³³The cistern or cave is treated as a house and the corral as the house’s yard where carrying is permitted..

Rebbi Jonah asked: Why do we say: “No linear measurements stated by the Sages require ‘more’ except an interrupted trellis?” Did we not state⁵⁶Mishnah Menaḥot 7:2: “The flour sacrifice of a Nazir came in two parts, loaves and flatbreads, but no paste (from flour and oil). It turns out that these are 10 Jerusalem qab which equal six esronim and excess.” Mishnah 7:1 had stated that the three kinds of bread for a thanksgiving sacrifice came from 10 esronim which were 15 Jerusalem qab. Hence, the breads of the Nazir are 6⅔ esronim. The “excess” (in the Hebrew, an otherwise nonexisting plural of “more”) is ⅔ issaron. We use the expression “more” in a domain other than vineyards.: “Ten Jerusalem qab which equal six esronim and excess”? There about volumes, here about linear measures. But did we not state⁵⁷Mishnah Terumot 4:7: “R. Eliezer says, heave can be lifted by one in 101. Rebbi Joshua says, by one in more than 100; that ‘more’ has no measure. Rebbi Yose ben Meshullam said, ‘more’ is a qab per one hundred seah, a sixth of the amount that causes dema‘”. Dema‘, the mixture of profane food and heave, was discussed in Demay, Chapter 4, Note 27. If the amount of heave is small, it is possible to remove an amount equal to the heave and transfer the holiness to that food; the remainder of the food then returns to profane status. R. Eliezer states that in this respect “small” means at most 1 in 100 (1 part heave in 101 overall). R. Joshua requires that the amount be at most 1 in 99+ε; ε >0 being arbitrarily small. R. Yose ben Meshullam requires that the amount of heave be at most 1 in 99.1666̄; if the amount of heave is one seah, the amount of profane grain has to be 99 seah plus one sixth oí the amount causing the trouble, i. e., 99 ⅙ seah. {In Babli Eruvin 83a, “and more” is defined as one twentyfourth of the volume of an egg.}: “Rebbi Yose ben Meshullam said, ‘more’ is a qab per one hundred seah, a sixth of the amount that causes dema‘”? There about volumes, here about linear measures. But did we not state⁵⁸Mishnah Eruvin 2:5: “Additionally, R. Jehudah ben Baba said, one may carry (on the Sabbath) in a garden or a corral which measure seventy and a remainder by seventy and a remainder and are enclosed by a fence ten hand-breadths high on condition that they contain a watchman’s place.” On the Sabbath, one may carry his utensils in his house and in any enclosed space containing a human dwelling. Enclosed spaces no part of which is used as a human dwelling, such as vegetable plots and corrals, are accepted as private domain only if their surface area is not more that 5000 square cubits, the surface area of the enclosed space of the tabernacle (cf. Peah Chapter 2, Note 31). Since √5000 = 70.71068, R. Jehudah ben Baba’s remainder is 0.71068 cubits, a linear measure.: “Rebbi Jehudah ben Baba said, the garden and the corral which are seventy and a remainder by seventy and a remainder”? Samuel said, they taught two thirds of a cubit⁵⁹Samuel notes that for non-mathematicians the domain is limited to 70 cubits 4 hand-breadths square, 70.666̄ cubits square. The excess over 70 is a genuine remainder, less than one cubit, but it is not a “more” which by definition can be at most one hand-breadth, the smallest unit of length accepted in these tractates of the Mishnah..