Talmud su Zavim 2:6
Jerusalem Talmud Megillah
HALAKHAH: Rebbi Jehudah bar Pazi said, this is Rebbi Eleazar’s, for “Rebbi Eleazar said, [also] the third time one checks him out because of the sacrifice.235Mishnah Zavim 2:2. The Mishnah states that the male sufferer from flux is impure only if he has a discharge for a medical condition. If it is possible that the discharge is an ejaculation of semen because of some exterior influence, he still is impure and needs immersion but this is not cumulative and does not start a count. Then the Mishnah restricts this investigation to the first two times. A third episode within 3 days establishes a pattern; the cause must be medical.
The majority of sources including Maimonides’s autograph Mishnah (and the organization of the Mishnah) indicate that the name is correctly “Eleazar” and not “Eliezer”.” But for the rabbis, the second time if forced he is pure, but the third time if forced is impure236According to the anonymous majority, the Mishnah should mention that there is another difference between two and three times flux, that the second may be checked and eliminated whereas the third may not.. Rebbi Yose said, if it is not the rabbis’, it also is not Rebbi Eleazar’s, as it was stated: Rebbi Eleazar said, I did not say to undo his count237He agrees that two consecutive counts establish a pattern which creates severe impurity but he holds that an obligatory sacrifice may be brought only if the obligation is clearly established, whereas impurity in most cases has to be observed on a suspicion., only that he may not bring a sacrifice. I did not say that he is not a sufferer from flux to undo the count of episodes; not to upset his status did I say but that he may not bring a sacrifice. This implies that it238Mishnah 10. is everybody’s opinion. If you would say it is Rebbi Eleazar’s it should state: the second time is subject to undoing but not a sacrifice, the third time to undoing and sacrifice239Similar to what was noted for the majority in Note 236, but with a different background.. In Rebbi Eleazar’s opinion, if she experienced two episodes of easy flux240Which establishes severe impurity. and one in difficulty she undoes241If the third time would not be counted had it been the second, it cannot be counted for a sacrifice. If therefore an unquestionable third episode happens on a later date, the count for sacrifice has to start anew. and does not bring a sacrifice.
The majority of sources including Maimonides’s autograph Mishnah (and the organization of the Mishnah) indicate that the name is correctly “Eleazar” and not “Eliezer”.” But for the rabbis, the second time if forced he is pure, but the third time if forced is impure236According to the anonymous majority, the Mishnah should mention that there is another difference between two and three times flux, that the second may be checked and eliminated whereas the third may not.. Rebbi Yose said, if it is not the rabbis’, it also is not Rebbi Eleazar’s, as it was stated: Rebbi Eleazar said, I did not say to undo his count237He agrees that two consecutive counts establish a pattern which creates severe impurity but he holds that an obligatory sacrifice may be brought only if the obligation is clearly established, whereas impurity in most cases has to be observed on a suspicion., only that he may not bring a sacrifice. I did not say that he is not a sufferer from flux to undo the count of episodes; not to upset his status did I say but that he may not bring a sacrifice. This implies that it238Mishnah 10. is everybody’s opinion. If you would say it is Rebbi Eleazar’s it should state: the second time is subject to undoing but not a sacrifice, the third time to undoing and sacrifice239Similar to what was noted for the majority in Note 236, but with a different background.. In Rebbi Eleazar’s opinion, if she experienced two episodes of easy flux240Which establishes severe impurity. and one in difficulty she undoes241If the third time would not be counted had it been the second, it cannot be counted for a sacrifice. If therefore an unquestionable third episode happens on a later date, the count for sacrifice has to start anew. and does not bring a sacrifice.
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