Talmud su Kelim 17:6
כַּבֵּיצָה שֶׁאָמְרוּ, לֹא גְדוֹלָה וְלֹא קְטַנָּה אֶלָּא בֵינוֹנִית. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר, מֵבִיא גְדוֹלָה שֶׁבַּגְּדוֹלוֹת וּקְטַנָּה שֶׁבַּקְּטַנּוֹת, וְנוֹתֵן לְתוֹךְ הַמַּיִם, וְחוֹלֵק אֶת הַמָּיִם. אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹסֵי, וְכִי מִי מוֹדִיעֵנִי אֵיזוֹהִי גְדוֹלָה וְאֵיזוֹהִי קְטַנָּה, אֶלָּא הַכֹּל לְפִי דַעְתּוֹ שֶׁל רוֹאֶה:
[La misurazione] dell'uovo menzionato non è né grande né piccolo, ma di medie dimensioni. Il rabbino Yehudah dice: Porta il più grande tra i più grandi e i più piccoli tra i piccoli, mettili in acqua e dividi l'acqua [che viene spostata]. Rabbi Yose disse: Chi mi dirà quale è grande e quale è piccolo? Piuttosto, è secondo la comprensione dell'osservatore.
Jerusalem Talmud Bikkurim
Rebbi Berekhiah in the name of Rebbi Samuel bar Naḥman: Why is “Land, Land” written twice50Deut. 8:8: A Land of wheat and barley, and vine, and fig tree, and pomegranate, a Land of the oil-olive and honey.? To tell you that a house stands only on these two things51The necessities of life are wheat and olive oil.. Why are [the others] included? Rebbi Jehuda ben Rebbi and Rebbi Samuel ben Naḥman, one says for benedictions52Explained Berakhot 6:4, Notes 150–151, where this opinion is labelled “Babylonian”., the other says for measures53In the Babli, Eruvin 4a/b, Sukkah 5b, this is reported in the name of the Babylonian Rav Ḥanin. The seven measures are: I. A person entering a leprous house is severely impure only if he remains long enough that he could have eaten a slice of wheat bread (Lev. 14:47). 2. A fragment of a human bone the size of a barley corn imparts impurity. 3. A quarter log of wine drunk by a nazir makes him subject to punishment. As a derivative, a quarter log of wine is the minimum for legal obligations. 4. Somebody carrying food in the volume of a dried fig from private to public domain on the Sabbath is guilty of desecrating the Sabbath. 5. A vessel having a pomegranate-sized hole is unusable and freed from the impurity of vessels. 6. The volume of an olive is the standard for most rules involving solid food. 7. Eating food in the volume of a dried date on the Day of Atonement is a desecration of the day.. He who says for benedictions is understandable. He who says for measures, did we not state: “A shiny mark the size of half a bean54Lev. 13:1–8, Mishnah Nega‘im 6:1.. A smaller lesion does not make impure.”? That is not reliable55The size of the lesion does not mean anything in itself. Even if the lesion is larger, if it does not grow after being seen by the Cohen it does not make impure. If it is smaller but seen by the Cohen and then spreads, there is impurity. (Explanation of Pene Moshe). Another interpretation would be that this and the next measure are not standardized.. “The size of a lentil from a crawling thing”56Mishnah Kelim 17:6. A fragment of a dead crawling animal (Lev. 11:29–31) in the size of a lentil makes impure.? That is not reliable57An integral limb makes impure even if it is smaller than a lentil..
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Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat
HALAKHAH: 5. “Reed to make a writing pen,” etc. Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: But at least that it reaches to the finger joints100Babli 90b as a tannaitic statement; Tosephta 8:21.. Rebbi Zeˋira asked, one understands up to here. Maybe up to here101The same question is asked in the Babli, which joints are meant? The roots of the fingers or the middle joint? The question is not answered there either.? There, we have stated102Mishnah Kelim13:2. Any vessel may become impure. When it is broken, it lost its impurity. The Mishnah states that impurity is eliminated only if it is completely unusable, not if a multi-purpose instrument has lost one of its uses. The slate pen is used to write on a wax-covered wooden tablet; its wide back is used to erase the writing and prepare the tablet for new writing.: “A pen of which the writing tip was broken off is impure because of the eraser. If the eraser was broken off it is impure because of the writing tip.” Rebbi Zeˋira asked, one understand up to here. Maybe up to here103Here also the minimal size of a pen remains undefined as it was for the reed pen.? Rebbi Yose said, any “egg” which was stated in Kelim means the actual volume of an egg. In Šabbat in the volume of a dried fig, of an egg104In Mishnah Kelim17:6 it is stated that “volume of an egg” mentioned in the Mishnah means volume of an average sized egg. It is now stated that the volume of “an easily cooked egg” means that of a small chicken egg, the volume of a dried Palestinian fig. Babli 80b..
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