Se ne rimuoveva uno (ovvero gli oggetti di scena del treppiede), i restanti contraggono l'impurità per contatto ma non attraverso lo spazio aereo; le parole del rabbino Meir. Il rabbino Shimon afferma che non sono soggetti a impurità. Se creava due oggetti di scena, uno di fronte all'altro, contraggono l'impurità per contatto e attraverso lo spazio aereo; le parole del rabbino Meir. Il rabbino Shimon afferma che sono puri. Se erano alte più di tre larghezze di dito, le parti alte tre larghezze di dito e inferiori contraggono l'impurità per contatto e attraverso lo spazio aereo, ma le parti che sono più di tre larghezze di larghezza contraggono impurità per contatto e non attraverso lo spazio aereo; le parole del rabbino Meir. Il rabbino Shimon afferma che sono puri. Se si estendono oltre il bordo [della stufa], le parti che si trovano entro tre larghezze di dito [del bordo] contraggono l'impurità per contatto e attraverso lo spazio aereo e quelle parti che si estendono per più di tre ampiezze di contratto contraggono l'impurità per contatto ma non attraverso lo spazio aereo; le parole del rabbino Meir. Il rabbino Shimon afferma che sono puri.
Bartenura on Mishnah Kelim
נטל אחד מהן – there were three [legs/props] and one of them was taken from them, they still appear partially able to place the cooking vessel over or by the fire and it is considered as chipped off/torn down and [also] not as chipped off/torn down. Therefore, it becomes susceptible to being defiled through contact does it does not become defiled through airspace.
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Introduction
This mishnah contains four debates between Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Shimon concerning the purity of the props used to support either the stove or the pot that rests on top of the stove.
The basis for this debate seems to be the same in all four cases. If the props are not considered to be attached to the stove, Rabbi Meir holds that they are still susceptible to the stove's impurity, but just to a lesser extent. Rabbi Shimon holds that the props are not susceptible at all.
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ורבי שמעון מטהר – for Rabbi Shimon would state that all of the pins forming a sort of tripod for the support of a portable stove with caves for two pots that are not susceptible to being defiled through airspace are not made unclean through contact. But the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Shimon.
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If one of them [i.e. the props] was removed, the remaining ones contract impurity by contact but not through air-space, the words of Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Shimon says that they are clean. If one of the props is removed, leaving two props, Rabbi Meir holds that they are still susceptible to impurity but only through contact and not through airspace. This means that if the oven is defiled through its airspace, the props remain pure, but if the oven is defiled by contact, the props are impure. In contrast, Rabbi Shimon considers the props to be separate from the stove and therefore pure even if the stove contracts impurity through contact.
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עשה שנים – the artisan from the outset made the portable stove with caves for two stoves with two legs/pins.
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If originally he made two props, one opposite the other, they contract impurity by contact and through air-space; the words of Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Shimon says that they are clean. If he originally made two props but he made them opposite each other so that he could rest a pot on them, Rabbi Meir holds that they are fully susceptible to impurity, both through airspace and contact. We should note that there is a variant reading of this section, according to which these props are susceptible to impurity only through contact and not through airspace (making this section consistent with the others). Rabbi Shimon considers this to be the same as the previous case, and the props are pure.
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מיטמאים במגע ובאויר – that they are like two stones that were made into a portable stove with caves for two pots, as it is taught in the Mishnah above (see Tractate Kelim, Chapter 6, Mishnah 1), that it is impure.
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If they were more than three fingerbreadths high, the parts that are three fingerbreadths high and below contract impurity by contact and through air-space but the parts that are more than three fingerbreadths high contract impurity by contact and not through air-space; the words of Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Shimon says that they are clean. In yesterday's mishnah we learned that if the props were less than three fingerbreadths high, they are susceptible to the stove's impurity. If they are more than three fingerbreadths high, then according to Rabbi Meir we draw an imaginary line three fingerbreadths over the stove. Above this line the props are susceptible to the impurity of the stove, but only if the stove contracts impurity through contact. Below the line, the props are fully susceptible. Rabbi Shimon considers these oversized props to be independent of the stove and therefore any part above three fingerbreadths is completely unsusceptible to impurity.
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היו גבוהים – the legs/pins.
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English Explanation of Mishnah Kelim
If they were withdrawn from the rim [of the stove], the parts which are within three fingerbreadths contract impurity by contact and through air-space, and those parts that are removed more than three fingerbreadths contract impurity by contact but not through air-space, the words of Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Shimon says that they are clean. If the props were moved away from the stove by a distance of less than three fingerbreadths they are still fully susceptible to impurity. If they were removed by a greater distance, Rabbi Meir holds that they are still susceptible but only through contact and not through airspace. Again, Rabbi Shimon holds that since these props are considered to be unattached from the stove, they are pure.
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ור' שמעון מטהר – that surplus above the three fingers and above, whether through contact or – thorough airspace. For every leg/pin that is above three fingers [in height] is not considered like a portable stove with caves for two pots.
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היו משוכים מן שפה (if they were withdrawn from the lip/rim) – like projections made in the body of the portable stove with caves for two pots. And from those projections, their legs/pins are stretched/conducted which are the feet of the portable stove with caves for two pots, and no, the legs/pins are found outside from the rim, but what there is of them that are within three [fingers] of the rim are considered like the portable stove with caves for two pots itself and become defiled through contact and through airspaces, but what there is of them outside of/beyond the three [fingers] is what Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Shimon dispute. And in all of them, the Halakha is according to Rabbi Meir.