Related sur Ta'anit 1:3
בִּשְׁלשָׁה בְמַרְחֶשְׁוָן שׁוֹאֲלִין אֶת הַגְּשָׁמִים. רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר, בְּשִׁבְעָה בוֹ, חֲמִשָּׁה עָשָׂר יוֹם אַחַר הֶחָג, כְּדֵי שֶׁיַּגִּיעַ אַחֲרוֹן שֶׁבְּיִשְׂרָאֵל לִנְהַר פְּרָת:
Le troisième de mars, des prières pour la pluie doivent être dites, mais selon Rabbon Gamaliel, le sept du même mois, à savoir, quinze jours après la fête des tabernacles, afin que les derniers Israélites aient atteint le fleuve Euphrate.
Tosefta Ta'anit
From when do we start asking for rains? From when the time of the rains comes. If it was a lacking year (meaning, a year with 353 days as opposed to 354), we give it its lack (the extra day it should have had). If not, it goes according to its set schedule: [All of this goes by] the words of Rabbi [Yehudah haNasi]. Rabban Shimon ben Gamaliel says, "Actually, they go according to their set schedule [all the time]." If it was a leap year, we give it its extra.
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Tosefta Ta'anit
What is considered the first rain (heb. R'viah)? [Rabbi Meir says, "An early one (lit. a firstborn) [falls] by the third [of Marcheshvan]; a middle one [falls] by the seventh; [and] a late one (lit. a dark one) [falls] by the seventeenth." Rabbi Yehudah says, "An early one [falls] by the seventh; a middle one [falls] by the seventeenth; [and] a late one [falls] by the twenty-third." Rabbi Yose says, An early one [falls] by the seventeenth; a middle one [falls] by the twenty-third; [and] a late one [falls] by Rosh Chodesh Kislev."] And so, Rabbi Yose would say, "The individuals do not fast until Rosh Chodesh Kislev."
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