Talmud sobre Menajot 12:2

הָאוֹמֵר, הֲרֵי עָלַי בְּמַחֲבַת, וְהֵבִיא בְמַרְחֶשֶׁת, בְּמַרְחֶשֶׁת וְהֵבִיא בְמַחֲבַת, מַה שֶּׁהֵבִיא הֵבִיא, וִידֵי חוֹבָתוֹ לֹא יָצָא. זוֹ לְהָבִיא בְמַחֲבַת, וְהֵבִיא בְמַרְחֶשֶׁת, בְּמַרְחֶשֶׁת, וְהֵבִיא בְמַחֲבַת, הֲרֵי זוֹ פְסוּלָה. הֲרֵי עָלַי שְׁנֵי עֶשְׂרוֹנִים לְהָבִיא בִכְלִי אֶחָד, וְהֵבִיא בִשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, בִּשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, וְהֵבִיא בִכְלִי אֶחָד, מַה שֶּׁהֵבִיא הֵבִיא, וִידֵי חוֹבָתוֹ לֹא יָצָא. אֵלּוּ לְהָבִיא בִכְלִי אֶחָד, וְהֵבִיא בִשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, בִּשְׁנֵי כֵלִים וְהֵבִיא בִכְלִי אֶחָד, הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ פְסוּלִין. הֲרֵי עָלַי שְׁנֵי עֶשְׂרוֹנִים לְהָבִיא בִכְלִי אֶחָד וְהֵבִיא בִשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, אָמְרוּ לוֹ בִּכְלִי אֶחָד נָדָרְתָּ, הִקְרִיבָן בִּכְלִי אֶחָד, כְּשֵׁרִים, וּבִשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, פְּסוּלִין. הֲרֵי עָלַי שְׁנֵי עֶשְׂרוֹנִים לְהָבִיא בִשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, וְהֵבִיא בִכְלִי אֶחָד, אָמְרוּ לוֹ, בִּשְׁנֵי כֵלִים נָדָרְתָּ, הִקְרִיבָן בִּשְׁנֵי כֵלִים, כְּשֵׁרִים. נְתָנוֹ בִכְלִי אֶחָד, כִּשְׁתֵּי מְנָחוֹת שֶׁנִּתְעָרָבוּ:

Quien dice que traeré [una ofrenda de grano preparada] en una sartén, pero trajo [una preparada] en una sartén, o, alguien que dijo que traeré [una ofrenda de grano preparada] en una sartén pan, pero trajo [uno preparado] en una sartén, lo que trajo, trajo, pero no cumplió con su obligación. [Si se comprometió] a llevar esta [ofrenda de grano preparada] en una sartén pero trajo [una preparada] en una sartén profunda o traer esta [ofrenda de grano preparada] en una sartén profunda pero trajo [una preparado] en una sartén, no es válido. Si dijo que traería dos esronim [medida específica de volumen seco] [de harina] en un recipiente, pero lo trajo en dos recipientes o dijo en dos recipientes pero trajo uno, lo que trajo, trajo, pero él No cumplió con su obligación. [Si se comprometió] a traer estos [dos esronim ] en un recipiente y los trajo en dos, o estos [dos esronim ] en dos recipientes y los trajo en un recipiente, estos no son válidos. Si él dijo que traería dos esronim en un recipiente y él los trajo en dos recipientes, y ellos le dijeron "le prometiste a un recipiente", si él [posteriormente] lo trajo en un recipiente, es válido; en dos vasos no es válido Si él dijo que traería dos esronim en dos recipientes y él los trajo en un recipiente y ellos le dijeron [a él] "usted prometió con respecto a dos recipientes", si él [posteriormente] lo trajo en dos recipientes, es válido; en un recipiente es como si dos ofrendas de granos se mezclaran.

Jerusalem Talmud Nazir

There²⁸Mishnah Menaḥot 12:2., we have stated: “If somebody says, ‘I undertake [to bring] on a pan²⁹A cereal offering fried in oil on a flat clay pan, Lev. 2:5–6.’ and he brought in a deep vessel³⁰A cereal offering cooked in boiling oil in a deep clay vessel, Lev. 2:7., in a deep vessel and he brought on a pan.³¹“What he brought is acceptable but he did not fulfill his vow.”” Rebbi Yose in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: This is the House of Shammai’s³²Why should a flour offering be acceptable if it was not properly dedicated? Since it is forbidden to bring profane food into the Temple precinct (Deut. 12:26), the House of Hillel should hold that an offering which does not fulfill the specification of the donor’s vow has to be rejected by the officiating priests. But for the House of Shammai, who hold that a dedication is always valid, even if made in error, the nonconforming offering is not profane., since the House of Shammai say, “dedication in error is dedication.” Rebbi Ze‘ira asked before Rebbi Yose³³Since R. Yose was R. Ze‘ira’s student’s student, one has to read: R. Yasa (Assi).: Why do we not explain it according to everybody, if he said, “I said, on a pan”?³⁴If the person who made the vow agrees that the present offering does not satisfy his vow, there is no reason why it should not be accepted as a separate offering. But if he said, “I undertake [to bring] on a pan,” and then he changed his mind³⁵Immediately. and said, “in a deep vessel”, he fulfilled his duty. Rebbi Ḥanina³⁶It seems that one has to read “R. Ḥinena”. and Rebbi Yasa came in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: it is everybody’s opinion. Rebbi Jeremiah asked: If he said, “I undertake [to bring] on a pan or in a deep vessel,” turned around³⁵Immediately. and said, “on a pan”, and turned around and said, “in a deep vessel”?³⁷Since he demonstrates that he did not make up his mind, do we hold him to his last statement or can he satisfy his vow with any of the kinds mentioned as possibilities? Rebbi Jehudah bar Pazi in the name of Rebbi Aḥa, Rebbi Hama in the name of Rebbi Yose: He determines even orally³⁸This is an independent statement. From the Mishnah in Menaḥot it follows that the donor’s statement determines the kind of cereal sacrifice he is required to bring, even if as yet he owes no flour.. They thought to say, even holidays determine³⁹If he vows the sacrifice for a holiday, he cannot satisfy his vow on a workday., even vessels determine⁴⁰If he vowed a cereal sacrifice without specifying its kind and then put the flour into one of the acceptable vessels without saying a word, the vessel determines the kind of offering he vowed and he cannot change it any longer..

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