Comentario sobre Hulín 9:2
אֵלּוּ שֶׁעוֹרוֹתֵיהֶן כִּבְשָׂרָן, עוֹר הָאָדָם, וְעוֹר חֲזִיר שֶׁל יִשּׁוּב. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר, אַף עוֹר חֲזִיר הַבָּר. וְעוֹר חֲטוֹטֶרֶת שֶׁל גָּמָל הָרַכָּה, וְעוֹר הָרֹאשׁ שֶׁל עֵגֶל הָרַךְ, וְעוֹר הַפְּרָסוֹת, וְעוֹר בֵּית הַבֹּשֶׁת, וְעוֹר הַשָּׁלִיל, וְעוֹר שֶׁתַּחַת הָאַלְיָה, וְעוֹר הָאֲנָקָה וְהַכֹּחַ וְהַלְּטָאָה וְהַחֹמֶט. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר, הַלְּטָאָה כַחֻלְדָּה. וְכֻלָּן שֶׁעִבְּדָן אוֹ שֶׁהִלֵּךְ בָּהֶן כְּדֵי עֲבוֹדָה, טְהוֹרִין, חוּץ מֵעוֹר הָאָדָם. רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן נוּרִי אוֹמֵר, שְׁמֹנָה שְׁרָצִים יֵשׁ לָהֶן עוֹרוֹת:
En los siguientes casos, la piel debe considerarse carne:—piel humana, la de los cerdos domésticos y, según R. José, también la de los cerdos salvajes, la piel sensible en la joroba de un camello joven y la de la cabeza de un ternero joven, la piel [entre] la pezuñas partidas, que sobre la matriz, y la de un feto animal en embrión, también debajo de la cola, y las del hurón, el camaleón, el lagarto y el caracol. R. Jehudah dice: "El de un lagarto debe ser considerado como una comadreja ['s piel] ". Si alguno de estos se hubiera curtido o convertido en cuero, o si hubiera sido pisado lo suficiente [en el proceso de convertir la piel en cuero], están limpios, excepto la piel humana. R. Jochanan ben Nouri dice , "Las ocho cosas raras tienen pieles".
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
אלו שעורותיהן (their hide is deemed equivalent to their meat) – they defile like their meat–flesh.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
English Explanation of Mishnah Chullin
Introduction
In yesterday’s mishnah we learned that the skin is not treated as part of the flesh, as far as transmitting nevelah-uncleanness. That is to say, in order for there to be an olive’s worth of flesh to convey nevelah-uncleanness, there must be meat and not skin.
Our mishnah teaches that there are cases where the skin is considered to be impure like the flesh.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
ועוד חזיר של ישוב – because it is soft and they eat it.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
English Explanation of Mishnah Chullin
In the following cases the skin is considered flesh: The skin of a person, The skin of the domesticated pig. Rabbi Yose says: even the skin of the wild pig. The skin of the hump of a young camel. The skin of the head of a young calf. The skin around the hooves. The skin of the pudenda. The skin of a fetus. The skin beneath the fat tail. The skin of the gecko, the monitor, the lizard and the skink. Rabbi Judah says: the lizard is like the weasel. In all of these cases, the skin is treated just like the flesh. The skin of a dead human being transmits impurity in the same way that the flesh does. In the remainder of the examples listed here the skin is treated like flesh because it is eaten like the flesh. These are all cases where the skin is soft and therefore edible. Thus people eat the skin of the domesticated pig, but not the skin of wild pigs. Rabbi Yose says that people eat even the skin of wild pigs. In sub-section i, the mishnah lists four of the eight “reptiles” (sheratzim) mentioned in Leviticus 11:29-30. Rabbi Judah holds that the skin of a lizard is not eaten and therefore it is like the skin of the weasel, which does not count as flesh.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
אף עור חזיר הבר – for he holds that this also is soft–tender. But the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Yehuda (actually, it should read, Rabbi Yosi, here, as Rabbi Yehuda’s comment in the Mishnah does not come until much later in the text).
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
English Explanation of Mishnah Chullin
If any of these skins was tanned or trampled upon as much as [was usual] for tanning, it becomes clean, excepting the skin of a man. Rabbi Yohanan ben Nuri says: the eight reptiles have [real] skins. Generally the types of skins mentioned in section one are eaten and not tanned. That is why they convey impurity as does flesh. However, if they were tanned, or even begun to be tanned, then it is obvious that the owner does not intend to eat them. Therefore, they are pure from nevelah uncleanness. The one exception is human skin, which continues to be impure even if it is tanned (I realize that this is a disturbing image). Rabbi Yohanan ben Nuri holds that the 8 reptiles listed in Leviticus 11:29-30 have real skins, ones that don’t convey nevelah-uncleanness. He disagrees with the sages above who distinguished between the different reptiles.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
חטוטרת של גמל הרכה (hump of a young camel) – all the while that it didn’t carry a burden.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
עגל הרך – all the while that it nurses.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
ועור הפרסות (skin of the hooves) – when they sever–cut off the legs, and it is soft.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
בית הבושת (pudenda) – the sides of the womb of the female.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
ועור שתחת האליה – the hide of the tail from under the place where there is no hair, because it is soft.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
האנקה (hedgehog) – RITZU
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
והלטאה (a species of lizard) – LEVIYARDA.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
חומט (snail) – LUGMA.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
הלטאה כחולדה (the lizard is equivalent to the weasel) – its hide is smoother than its skin, but the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Yehuda.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
וכולן שעיבדן (and all of them which one tanned) – all of these which they stated that defile like he meat, if he tanned them, they became hide and were abolished from the law of flesh and are pure.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
או שהלך בהן – that he stretched them in order to trample them, which is a bit like tanning them (and do not impart food uncleanness).
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
חוץ מעור אדם – it is the law of the Torah that the skin of man, after it is tanned, it is pure, and what is the reason that they said tha the skin of man that is tanned is impure, as a decree lest a person work the skins of his mother and–or his mother into mats–rugs to sit and–or to lie upon them.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy
Bartenura on Mishnah Chullin
יש להן עורות – and not one of them (i.e., the eight reptiles described in Leviticus 11:29-30) that 8ts hide will defile like its skin–meat. And it is not like the First Tanna–teacher who considers that four of them – their hides are like their meat–skin. But the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Yohanan ben Nuri.
Ask RabbiBookmarkShareCopy