Если он украл у своего отца и ел во владении своего отца] Даже если он обычно может украсть что-то у своего отца, так как он ест это во владении своего отца, он всегда боится, что его увидит его отец, и не будет настаивать на своем кража]. (если он украл) у других и ел во владении других [(Не всегда можно украсть у других, и он не привыкнет к нему.)], (если он украл) у других и ел в домене своего отца—он не становится бен Сорером Уморе, пока не украдет у своего отца, [у которого он обычно может воровать] и не ест в области других, [где он не боится своего отца, так что он определенно привыкнет к воровство.] Р. Йосси б. Р. Иегуда говорит: (Он не несет ответственности) до тех пор, пока не украдет у своего отца и у его матери [из имущества, на которое у ее мужа нет прав, например, когда другой человек подарил ей свое имущество при условии, что у ее мужа нет прав в этом. Галаха не соответствует Р. Йосси б. Р. Иегуда.]
Bartenura on Mishnah Sanhedrin
גנב משל אביו ואכל ברשות אביו – even though it is frequent for him to steal from his father, since and he ate in his father’s domain, he is afraid of and agitated by his father, lest he see him and not continue.
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Introduction
Mishnah three contains further restrictions with regards to the “wayward and rebellious son”.
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גנב משל אחרים – it is not frequent for him that he would be able at any time to steal from others, and he doesn’t continue.
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If he stole from his father and ate it on his father’s property, or of strangers and ate it on the property of the strangers, or of strangers and ate on his father’s property, he does not become a “wayward and rebellious son,” until he steals from his father and eats on other’s property. Rabbi Yose bar Yehudah said: “Until he steals from his father and mother.” According to our mishnah in order for a son to become a “wayward and rebellious son” he must steal from his father and consume the stolen food on other people’s property. This is because stealing from his father is easy due to his easy access to his father’s property. Eating the stolen food on other people’s property is also easy, since other people will not know that that which he is eating was stolen. Any other combination of stealing and eating will not make him a “wayward and rebellious son”, since one element will not be so easy. In other words, in order to be a “wayward and rebellious son” he must violate the norms of society in a way that will be easy and therefore encourage him to continuously do so. A riskier action is less likely to be repeated and is therefore more lightly punished. According to Rabbi Judah he must steal from both his father and mother. This “egalitarian” approach is probably based on the fact that the verses in Deuteronomy say that both parents bring the child to his punishment, as we will learn in greater depth in the next mishnah. If both parents bring the child to be punished, the crimes must have been directed at both parents as well.
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Bartenura on Mishnah Sanhedrin
עד שיגנוב משל אביו – since it is frequent for him to steal at all times.
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Questions for Further Thought: • Of the strategies for dealing with understanding the laws of the “wayward and rebellious son” that we discussed in the introduction to this chapter, which are employed in this mishnah?
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Bartenura on Mishnah Sanhedrin
ויאכל ברשות אחרים – for he is not agitated there from his father, in a such a manner, and with a certainty, he continues.
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ומשל אמו – from the possessions that she has that his father has no control over them, such as if another person gave her possessions as a gift on the condition that her husband has no control over them. But the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Yosi B’Rabbi Yehuda.
