Talmud sobre Kelim 16:10

What is a couch and what is a dargesh? Rebbi Jeremiah²⁹In Babli, Sanhedrin 20a/b, this appears in the name of Rebbi Jeremiah in the name of Rebbi Yoḥanan. said, one that one plaits³⁰The couch has a frame and instead of a box spring it has length-and crosswise strips that are plaited together. on its body is a couch and one that one does not plait on its body³¹Maybe, according to the Babli, because instead of a plaited bed of strips it has a base of leather that is fastened only in a few places to the frame. is a dargesh. But have we not stated (Kelim 16:1) “Bed and³²Reading of the Rome and Mishnah mss. The conjunction is missing in the Venice print and Leyden ms. crib after he rubs them with fish skin³³This Mishnah deals with the moment when a wooden implement is finished. Wood in itself cannot become ritually impure but wooden vessels and implements can. The moment when a wooden bed frame is finished so that it can become ritually unclean is the moment when it can be delivered by the carpenter to the customer, after it is polished with the classical equivalent of sand paper..” If he plaits on its body, why does he rub³⁴If the entire frame is covered by the strips forming the base of the bed, who cares how the wooden frame looks?? Rebbi Eleazar said, explain it with those Caesarean cribs that have holes³⁵The strips are not wound around the frame but go through the holes in the frame, leaving half of it exposed..

Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, one says according to Rebbi Meïr ten things sanctify¹⁰⁸They sanctify in the most minute amounts and cannot be lifted. These include the six items listed in Mishnah 7 and the items forbidden in Mishnaiot 3,4,5,6, where Mishnah 3 is counted as one item.; the other says according to Rebbi Meïr all things¹³¹Sold by the piece. sanctify. Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa said this as a tradition¹³²The interpretation of statement of R. Meïr was already a tannaïtic problem.. A Mishnah disagrees with him who says, according to Rebbi Meïr ten things sanctify, as we have stated there¹³³Kelim17:4. The Mishnah refers to the rule that a vessel which has a hole the size of an average pomegranate is no longer considered a vessel and cannot be impure. There is a discussion whether “average pomegranate” means “Badan pomegranate.”: “Rebbi Jehudah¹³⁴In the Mishnah: R. Yose. This reading seems to be the correct one since R. Yose is the youngest of all Tannaïm mentioned there, is mentioned last, and practice follows him. said, Badan pomegranates and Geba¹³⁵This Geba is an otherwise unidentified place in Samaria. Since Badan and Geba are in Samaria and Samaritans never tithe produce for sale and reject the notion of heave and tithes for produce other than grain, wine, and olive oil, one knows that pomegranates and leeks are subject to heave and tithing since Samaritans are a Jewish sect, and their produce is certainly ṭevel for heave and tithes.
The reading חצירי is that of the scribe of the ms. who corrected it to חריצי, the form found in the Venice text. The text in Kelim reads חצירי “leeks”; neither Hebrew חריץ “incision, furrow”, nor Arabic ח̇רצ “palm branch” make any sense here. leeks were mentioned only because one must tithe them as certain everywhere.”

What is a couch and what is a dargesh? Rebbi Jeremiah said, one that one plaits on its body is a couch and one that one does not plait on its body is a dargesh. But have we not stated (Kelim 16:1) “Bed and crib after he rubs them with fish skin.” If it is plaited on its body, why does he rub? Rebbi Eleazar said, explain it with those Caesarean cribs that have holes.