תלמוד על נזיר 6:11

I could think that they may fulfill their obligation with flat cakes for a thanksgiving offering and wafers of a nazir²¹⁸The question is raised about mazzot which were baked to be used with a thanksgiving offering (Lev. 7:12) or with the offerings required at the end of a vow of nazir(Num. 6:15) but were not used for that purpose, as implied by the text of the Mishnah. Babli 38a as Amoraic statement..The verse says, seven days you shall eat mazzot²¹⁹Ex. 12:15.; mazzah which may be eaten all seven days. But flat cakes for a thanksgiving offering and wafers of a nazir may not be eaten all seven days²²⁰Both kinds of bread may be eaten only on the day of the sacrifice and the following night; if it was intended not to be eaten for a longer period it may not be used even if it was not used for the original purpose.. Rebbi Jonah in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: since flat cakes for a thanksgiving offering and wafers of a nazir may be eaten in the entire domain of the Land of Israel, the presenter could not exclude because of “dwelling place”²²¹The argument really goes the other way. Since the statement at the start of the paragraph (which also in the Yerushalmi seems to be Amoraic as shown by the expression שׁוֹנֶה instead of תַּנֵּי) uses a verse different from the one quoted in the preceding Tannaitic source, it follows that the verse quoted earlier is not applicable. The bread accompanying the animal sacrifices must be consumed at the place prescribed for consumption of the meat.. Rebbi Yose in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: this implies that wafers of a nazir may be eaten in the entire domain of the Land of Israel, the presenter could not exclude because of “dwelling place”. One understands about flat cakes for a thanksgiving offering. But it is not so for wafers of a nazir²²²While during the existence of the Sanctuary at Shilo or after the building of the Temple all sacrifices had to be offered at the place of the Sanctuary, before the building of the Sanctuary at Shiloh and after its destruction voluntary offerings could be given at private altars (“minor elevated places”) whereas obligatory offerings were restricted to altars erected at the place of the Tabernacle or the Ark of Covenant (“principal elevated places”, Gilgal, Nob, and Gibeon); Mishnah Megillah 1:13. Therefore there were times when thanksgiving offerings could be presented anywhere in the Land, but while making a vow of nazir was voluntary, once it was made the sacrifices of nezirut became mandatory.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, there is no nazir here; nezirut is an obligation. Rebbi Abun bar Cahana said, explain it if his purification offering was presented in Shiloh but his elevation and well-being offerings in Nob or Gibeon²²³Not that they were sacrificed at Nob or Gibeon, but they were sacrificed at the time when Nob or Gibeon were principal elevated places, i. e., the sanctuary at Shiloh was presumed destroyed immediately after the purification sacrifice was offered. Since elevation and well-being offerings are by their nature voluntary (even though in this case they are obligatory), they can be offered at a local sanctuary and the accompanying bread eaten anywhere in the Land.. Rebbi Ḥananiah, Rebbi [Azariah]²²⁴It seems that this was his name; the spelling עֶזְרָה in the Leiden text is irregular since Ezra should be spelled with א. asked before Rebbi Mana: Did not the teacher say in the name of Rebbi Yose: Holiday well-being offerings brought at an elevated place are qualified but they are not counted against an obligation of the owner²²⁵Well-being sacrifices mostly are voluntary; they can be offered at a local shrine according to all the rules spelled out in Lev. 3. But the holiday offering is obligatory; at a local shrine they cannot satisfy an obligation. Therefore the accompanying bread cannot be eaten at all places.? But it must be for Rebbi Jehudah, as Rebbi Jehudah said, purification and Passover offerings of individuals at a principal elevated place, but no purification and Passover offerings of individuals at a minor elevated place²²⁶But all other obligatory sacrifices can be brought locally, including two of the three sacrifices of the nazir.. It only follows Rebbi Simeon, since “Rebbi Simeon said, when one of the bloods was sprinkled, the nazir is permitted to drink wine and to defile himself for the dead.²²⁷Mishnah Nazir 6:11 (Note 224). Therefore only the first sacrifice of the nazir is obligatory, the others together with the bread may be offered locally.”